Date: August 10, 2011
Location: Secretary of State’s Office, Blue Spruce Conference Room, 1700 Broadway, Denver, Colorado
Members Present: Bishop Dan Gincig, Beau Williams, Austin Gomes, Vera
Craven, Tom Bednark
Members Absent: Jeanne McEvoy, John Smith, Nick Pizzuti
Secretary of State Officials Present: Mike Hardin, Sarah Steinbeck, Rudy Johnson, Patrick
Ryan, Shannon Bee, Brian Gryth
Meeting was called to order at 10:05 A.M.
The Pledge of Allegiance
A motion was made by Austin
Gomes to approve the April 13, 2011 meeting minutes as presented. The motion was seconded by Chairman Gincig and
approved by unanimous vote of the Board.
Secretary of State
Mike Hardin introduced
Sarah Steinbeck as the individual managing the non-profit programs in the
Secretary of State's office (Bingo/Raffles and Charitable Solicitations).
Mr. Hardin stated the
Rules were finalized late yesterday (8/9/2011).
There were three basic categories under consideration for review. The first involved cleanup and clarity
changes to current rules as well as style changes. These changes were adopted. The other two categories considered, but not
adopted were 24 number bingo, and Queen of Hearts, both of which would not be
allowed under current statute.
Chairman Gincig felt that
the decision made by the Secretary of State’s office on the proposed Rules was
in direct disregard to all testimony presented at the hearing and all
statements of the Board. He felt the
decision was made based on old arguments and not the current information and
statements presented. He personally felt
a major fault in the decision on the proposed rules was the denial of the
increase in faces from 36 to 54. Ms. Craven
also felt that this decision was not fair and that the 54 face limit should be
allowed. She stated that Colorado is the
only State that limits the faces to 36.
Chairman Gincig felt that
if a study was done on who wins more, players on paper or those using machines,
it would be found to be about a 50-50 split.
He said he would do a more formal study of this in his hall to verify
this statement and present this to the Secretary of State’s office.
Mr. Gomes stated that his
sessions are run without electronics and he gets 130-140 players per night that
he runs. With the statistics shown on
the financial report from the Secretary of State’s office, increasing the
number of faces allowed on the electronic aids is not going to help in the long
Mr. Bednark felt the
number of faces should be increased, regardless, because it won’t adversely
Chairman Gincig also
stated that one issue that had not been included in the Rules, but was
requested, was increasing the amount of payout for shared jackpots (going from
$2,000 to $5,000). He would like this
looked at by the Secretary of State’s office.
Mr. Williams commented he
was very disappointed in the ruling and that more faces should be allowed. Other states do not limit the number of faces
played on electronics. He felt not
enough is being done by the Secretary of State’s office to help the
reiterated his request to have the Board meeting dates e-mailed to current
licensees by the Secretary of State’s office.
Mr. Hardin stated a new program is being rolled out by the office that can
send licensees up e-mails on various topics.
He will look at including current bingo/raffle licensees on a
distribution list for notifications of Board meetings.
Chairman Gincig next
addressed chronic no-shows of members of the Board. Jeanne McEvoy has already expressed that she
wished to resign. The other member of
concern is John Smith. Chairman Gincig
asked what action the Board should take?
Mr. Gomes stated that the Board may wish to contact members of concern first to discover their
intentions concerning their membership on the Board.
Mr. Williams made a
motion to report the inactivity of Board members in question to their
respective appointing authority in the legislature to see if that member could
be removed to open these positions on the Board. The motion was seconded by Ms. Craven and
passed by unanimous decision of the Board.
Chairman Gincig also
asked Mr. Amen contact Mr. Pizzuti as to his intention as to remaining a member
of the Board.
Kathy Gawlikowski, of St
Therese School, was very disappointed in the decision on 24 number bingo and
the inability to increase the number of faces played. She felt the players want gadgets, so they go
to the casinos. Licensees would like to
offer players new games to bring players back from the casinos and to make
money for the non-profits.
Mr. Bednark asked where
do they go from here? How do they move
forward with the Rules concerning increasing the number of faces? Members of the Board asked that the increase
in faces be revisited and to try another rule hearing concerning this issue.
Mr. Bednark moved to
adjourn the meeting. The motion was
seconded by Ms. Craven and approved by the Board.
Meeting adjourned at 11:07
The next meeting
of the Board will be October 19, 2011 at 10:00 at Secretary of State’s
Office, Blue Spruce Conference Room, 1700 Broadway, Denver, Colorado.