Date: December 11, 2013
Secretary of State’s Office, Blue Spruce Conference Room, 1700 Broadway,
Board members present: Donivon Glassburn, Dan Gincig, Tom Bednark,
Secretary of State officials present: Scott Gessler, Mike Hardin, Greg Lestikow,
Shannon Bee, Carla Hoke, Gary Zimmerman, Lisa Marty
The meeting was called to order at 10:02 AM.
The pledge of allegiance was conducted.
As there was no quorum the approval of the minutes for
September and November will be moved to the next meeting.
Doni asked for the phone numbers of the board members so he
can contact those missing and remind via phone calls of future meetings.
Greg Lestikow pointed out that in 2013 we have more licensed
groups than in past years. There was a
decline in licensees in 2012 but the current number has surpassed that of 2010
and 2011. This trend appears to be
mainly toward raffle licenses.
The net profit has remained constant at 19% and from the
trend analysis, presented at the last meeting, it is anticipated to remain the
same through the end of 2013.
- The e-training for progressive raffles and the
new laws will be available as of 1/1/2014.
- The games manager manual is under revision
- The quarterly forms and progressive pages are
also ready, both printed and online.
As an offshoot of the Runge study, the bingo/raffle division
is working with an organization to help generate ideas to help licensees. The marketing toolkit will consist of
research to see what successful groups do.
The process is currently underway with interviews of approximately
12 successful groups. The next step will
be to see what struggling groups face and then putting together a format of ideas,
online and printed, to help licensees with ideas to make their activities more
successful. By interviewing successful
groups, what works can be shared with others.
Greg indicated the toolkit should be complete by the state’s
fiscal year end (6/31/2014) but is anticipated to be completed sooner, perhaps
as early as mid-May.
Gary Zimmerman from the Secretary of State’s office
mentioned some of the previous campaigns and rebrands the Narrator Group has
been successful with in the past.
Doni mentioned besides interviewing licensees it would be
good to interview landlords. Doni also
mentioned a text blast process used by organizations in North Carolina to
advise players of progressive payouts.
Dan Gincig mentioned that previously the board was provided with
a list of the top 50 or 60 licensees. This
information was beneficial to see who was successful to find out what they were
doing. Greg will look into this.
Shannon Bee reported that we have approximately 300 groups
who have renewed their license for 2014.
We usually have 700 to 900 licensees by the deadline of January 1st. It is anticipated and usual to see 150
licensees file applications the last week of December.
Doni asked if landlords could be fined for allowing licensees
to play without a license. Greg
indicated that it is a gray area, but it has been determined that landlords
will not be fined.
Secretary Gessler attended the meeting to address the
challenges and struggles faced by the industry when he took office. The office has tried to be both a partner
with the industry while still continuing to exercise its regulatory functions.
Some of the efforts taken by the office in this partnership role have included
the Runge study, the currently in process toolkit and the temporary reduction
in fees allowing licensees and the Secretary of State’s office to see the
fruits of these efforts. Going forward
the office agenda is to make the laws easier to understand and comply with; as
well as to streamline reporting with e-filing.
The service and ideas of the board were also acknowledged.
- Number of players- the number of players is
listed on the financial report provided by the SOS office.
- Auto Daubers- under current statute not
- Progressive price change/scaling- are not allowed under current laws and was
not considered as a topic the Board would want to research further.
- Multiple checks- there is nothing stating a
group cannot write multiple checks for progressive payouts as long as the
checks are documented on Schedule A. The
group can cash the checks.
- Coupons- halls can offer coupons but must
reimburse the licensee. Will have more
clarification at the next meeting.
Carla Hoke, the legal representative for the Secretary of
State’s office, has worked on a table to breakout the potential legislative
changes to bingo/raffle in the next year. The changes will breakout Law #12-9-107 to be
more defined rather than an amalgamation of all activities. The changes will also include food for
volunteers and progressive bank accounts.
It is the Secretary of State’s opinion that these changes are popular
issues and will be successful combined under one bill.
The Secretary of State’s office is working with potential
sponsors for this bill. The bill is near
completion and copies will be sent to the board soon.
New technology pilots is current being addressed.
With two individuals having missed two meetings and one
potentially no longer meeting the requirements, Doni will contact these individuals
to see if they wish to terminate their positions. There was discussion as to how this process
would work, it was determined they will need to be terminated by the appointing
Doni believes he has a candidate for the currently open supplier
Homework Items for
Secretary of State
- Share draft legislative language as soon as it
- Prepare one-pager on progressive raffles
- Prepare list of successful licensees and revenue
- The Secretary of State will prepare this list on
a quarterly basis to be posted on the office’s website for public consumption
- Send Board member telephone numbers to Board
The meeting was adjourned at 11:10 AM.
Next meeting: February 12, 2014.